Expecting Expectations

posted September 28th, 2013, 11:00 am


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September 27th, 2013, 10:32 pm

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Well, chicken crud. This isn't good at all.

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September 28th, 2013, 12:09 pm

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Holy Crap!

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@Lugbzurg:
In order to avoid the risk of asking "Why," I must question if your equine avatar felt the force of encopresis?

I mean he is a horse, of course. For the moment, at least, he is a beast of burden. None the less, I don't know why they feel the need to do it in the presence of predators, but they usually do...doo doo.

No offense, but what possessed you to think the last panel would indicate something else?

It looks like he's checking to make sure there isn't scat everywhere. Either that or it would appear he's noticed something that's taken the shine out of the floor.

And, as long as I'm complaining, I should mention the third panel could use some improvement. There are different shades of grey, red, or black that could have been used to identify and verify the presence of a frame.

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September 28th, 2013, 4:35 pm

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... I'm just going to get this out of the way now.

Why isn't she QUEEN Celestia?

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September 28th, 2013, 6:16 pm

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@Kurona:

Accountability? Remember, if she were Queen she might have to take up some of the responsibilities she's delegated to Twilight and her sibling with magical brain damage or missing time. I thought I went over this a few months ago when I explained Celestia is a "Sacred Prostitute" archetype.

Theory on character archetypes, still haven't watched much of the show...

Twilight Sparkle= Mary Sue

Celestia= Sacred Prostitute

Nightmare Moon= Demon/ False Co-Dependent Self

Applejack= Financial Victim (Someone who sacrifices their happiness for personal gain. And, one who uses work or competition as a distraction from their pain, often as an excuse to avoid personal problems or accountability, taken to an extreme where it causes personal injury or harm.)

Pinky Pie= Internal Drives or Desires

Rainbow Dash= Adapted Child

Rarity= Ogre Mother/ Bridezilla

Trixie= Little Professor

Fluttershy= Wounded Child

Derpy Hooves= Self Confidence or Youthful Idealism

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September 29th, 2013, 10:43 am

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@Kurona: Because thanks to Disney, little girls equate princesses with "good," and queens with "evil." At least, that was apparently Hasbro's reasoning, anyway. Lauren Faust intended Celestia to be a queen.

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September 29th, 2013, 10:44 am

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@Jarkes:
It's not necessarily thanks to Disney; they seemed to just increase the problem.

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September 30th, 2013, 1:04 pm

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@Jarkes:
@Kurona:

There's a book called "Where the Girl's are" that dedicates a whole chapter to Disney's portrayal of women. At least that's what I remember of it, I have to re read the section to be more specific.

However, in general it amounts to only the good die young, women are meant to be either delicate caretakers, jealous retributive debutantes, or unlucky manipulative social engineers with a strong work ethic.

At some point during puberty schizophrenia develops shortly before or after the loss of one or both parents. As a Disney character gets older they slowly loose their faculty to act like an adult and regress to prepubescent levels of intellect, thus making the main character smarter and wiser than their foes who rely on social authority, intimidating presence, or dark magic to control everything.

So basically, if the main character "lucks" hard enough and has a good work ethic they can attain enough money status or power to overcome slavery...indentured servitude, earn their freedom and thwart their BDSM overlords.

It's basically the Horatio Alger myth wrapped with a bow and sprinkled with bit of being "Raised by wolves ((or Abducted by savages))" shortly before being rescued by a mythical norm ((whether it be prince carming, a knight in shining armor, or a streetwise Rogue)) and inheriting a fortune.

I'm surprised they even bother with the part where if you've worked hard enough, your "entitled" to a happy ending. As if it's all just going to be handed to them on a silver platter. Then again, the medium was meant to appeal to a general audience.

I would have though everyone was born to have an equal share in all the resources and social responsibilities considering the quasi socialist utopian set up Disney has going for it; despite the scarcity conscious doomsayers afraid anyone else will make it to the top of the heap.

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September 30th, 2013, 7:12 pm

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By the way, Lugbzurg, I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL45FXiU5g2Q-25vCiShWGIOVBDLaAcPGz

Perhaps this will free you of any delusions you still have about Sonic '06 actually being a good game.

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October 1st, 2013, 12:39 am

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If he goes unconscious with fear, and we get more pointless filler, I SWEAR I'm going to lose it.

@Kurona: Because Hasbro doesn't like you.

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October 1st, 2013, 10:17 am

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@Jarkes:
YOU LIKE CLEMENT TOO?!


Also lug's most likely already seen that

@greenpowerstar
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October 1st, 2013, 11:52 am

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I'll be the first to admit that I haven't played Sonic '06 or Shadow the hedgehog. The last time I played a sonic title was 2005. However, from just looking at the review, the man admits that he only rented the game.

Not that I'm judging but based on appearances alone, it still looks comparable to other action platformer games. Personally my favorite series is Jak and Daxter, I've played crash bandicoot, and most sly cooper games. I own three ps2 pacman titles as well as more than half a dozen driving simulator games.

Just from looking at it, it doesn't appear to warrant all the hate. I'm still not clear on why it's bad other than it doesn't make full use of he resources available to it for the "amazing" __new__ console and by the way it looks ugly.

Movies reuse titles every five years, and different studios use the same titles for different movies, books aren't much different. I'm not sure I entirely understand. Are you upset because it was made for profit? That's just the way of the world.

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October 1st, 2013, 2:31 pm

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@Jarkes: Who ever told you I thought Sonic '06 was a good game? I'd like to set that nincompoop straight.

In fact, I've already seen that series of Clement's. And I was wondering why he backed out on pointing out all the flaws he said he would. He would get so close to something and then talk about something else. I kept finding things, stupid things, that he kept leaving out.

Still better than Sonic Unleashed, though.

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October 1st, 2013, 3:25 pm

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@Lugbzurg: Okay, I guess I simply misunderstood you when you compared it favorably to the games that came after it.

@Kurona:

I actually discovered him when a friend of mine showed me part of the tail end of the review I linked to. But I've only just now started watching some of his earlier Sonic Let's Plays. I started with his Sonic 3 & Knuckles LP.

"Man, Knuckles is an idiot!" "SHUT UP!"

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October 1st, 2013, 3:28 pm

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@Jarkes:
I discovered him when I was looking for MMZ playthroughs.

Talking of which. Mighty No. 9. Not sure if you guys have discussed it, but... I think I'm really gonna like this better than Mega Man.

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October 1st, 2013, 4:06 pm

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A man complaining for 3 1/2 hours about a game he rented using a system he borrowed from his friend. 1 hour of video for every five hours of editing... a minimum of 40 hours wasted playing a video game that had a reputation for being bad and claiming it as therapy.

I'm not sure I want this masochistic fascist designing video games for me either. As much as I enjoy hearing about some man whine about the injustice of it all, what about all the real victims of this supposed crime against gaming? What are they doing? Surely they aren't wasting a few hours of their lives listening to some gas bag talk about something they already know was a horrible experience. Where are they???

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October 2nd, 2013, 8:08 am

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@GabrielsThoughts: He has his own "Platinum Family Hits" copy on X-Box 360.

And Johnny bought it twice!

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October 2nd, 2013, 8:24 am

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@Lugbzurg:

That's even worse. He new it was bad, he knew the challenges were ridiculously difficult to infinity and beyond, and yet he still purchased it multiple times, in addition to renting it, and reviewing it. That's only going to contribute to the problem. You don't honestly think gaming companies base their decisions on rationale.

You do realize he just gave them a license to print up more copies of what is arguably the worst game of all time. He's literally marketing Sonic '06 without getting paid for it. If I was going to do that, I'd have made my pony parody already and have been done with it.

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October 2nd, 2013, 1:33 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Clement made the super-long review.

Johnny just bought it twice. And reviewed it twice!

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October 2nd, 2013, 4:36 pm

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...Come to think of it, Tails's ending theme from Adventure 1, "Believe in Myself," fits Scootaloo perfectly. She wants to fly high so she can be with her idol, Rainbow Dash.

Naturally, when the "Scootaloo can't fly" episode in season 4 airs (sorry for spoilers if anyone here didn't see the animatics they showed at Comic-Con), I'm going to try and find an opportunity to start singing that song while watching the episode.

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October 2nd, 2013, 7:03 pm

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I don't suppose anyone is familiar with an animé called "Tokyo Mew Mew"? I've been watching it lately in preparation for understanding Madoka Magica when I see that, which is essentially the anime equivalent of Spec Ops: The Line. Tokyo Mew Mew actually left me genuinely ("ribbon strawberry") surprised when I saw it. It's actually really good. It's downright hilarious and the expressions are fantastic, which is backed up by them being used on such great characters! Well... I can only imagine how much 4Kids might've screwed all that up in the English dub. They removed all references to Japan, changed the names of the characters and show itself, and what's more, they didn't even finish it! Well, actually, I hear the latter wasn't entirely their own fault. So, that can slide, I suppose. At least, even though they completely changed the entire soundtrack, it still ended up being pretty awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXmbeZtCaRs

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October 2nd, 2013, 8:27 pm

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A man and his unicorns...

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Anyway, I recently finished watching the mind screwball comedy that is 'Unico and 'The Last Unicorn. I've also revisited the story of 'There's a Unicorn in the Garden' and some other unicorn thing that people from my generation have probably seen that features unicorns and stuff. And, I was totally hating on it n' stuff.

I wasn't hating on it because it was brainwashing children. After all, little Unico is the only one pushing this strange philosophy of making everyone happy, rather than letting it be a conscious choice. Evidently, this little dragon sprite ((who looks like an odd cross between a unicorn, a monkey, and a small child)) somehow pissed off all the Gods on Barsoom because he was the cutest transforming allicorn thingie with fairy wings in the entire universe...

Obviously, his miraculous journey is the result of Celestia wanting a post natal abortion.

The last unicorn, sponsored by red bull and the company that produces such wondrously independent comic book titles as Transformers ((ironic only because it produces merchandising ephemera for one of the most recognizable brands in the world)) comes the story of a narcissistic immortal unicorn known as the god of the evergreen forrest. Totally not Celestia.

Anyway, after escaping solitary confinement, a unicorn that looks like an earth pony to anyone who doesn't believe in magic, listens to the ramblings of a butterfly one breezy morning and realizes she badly needs more than a little superficial companionship...

Nobody knows how many years this social isolate went without making contact with another creature in the forrest, but it was long enough for madness to set in. Naturally, I have my suspicions, but I believe the implication is that the woodland critters of Narnia and a few superficial friendships with other sentient lifeforms wasn't good enough for this forlorn filly. She wanted revenge, admittedly poorly executed revenge given the circumstances, but revenge none the less.

It would appear that while this odd maven was off tweaking on magic mushrooms, in whatever oubliette of the evergreen forest she had crawled out of, that the other unicorns were herded off into the abyss of the sea. One can almost imagine the horror she felt when she learned that a jersey devil tipped over a milk truck and torched all the feed.

While on the hunt she, the revenge driven unicorn that is, eventually gets roped into becoming the star attraction for Madame Fourtuna's Carnival of Souls. After befriending a wizard, teaming up with a retired tavern maiden, and orchestrating the death of Jazen Wild in a fit of madness, she decides to get some red bull.

Unfortunately for this unicorn, in the fashion of an escaped mental patient and queen of hearts turned poet, one who doesn't understand or recognize currency exchange, didn't realize that stomping your feet and telling someone they were a very bad meanie was not the most effective way of exacting her revenge.

Like a boss, the Jersey Devil uses his leverage to herd her to the ocean only to loose sight of her when the equestrian girl becomes mortal...and she turns into an odd primate with boobs.

While wondering around in total darkness wearing almost nothing and the emperors new clothes, the unicorn and her entourage of the damned come across the remains of the castle on nightmare island ((peninsula really if you want to get technical)) which has been appropriated by the Marque de Sade and his adopted son, the horny prince Beowulf.

It would appear that the Marque was living in sin with the last wizard that was working for him, but the relationship went south when he got all jelly with the clown from Madame Fourtuna's Carnival of Souls. After booting out his lover like a son of a bitch, the Marque then hired the last unicorn and her entourage because they were all as miserable as he was.

After a few weeks of wooing princess not Celestia, Beowulf seeks relationship advice from the lady Dulcinea. Shockingly, he quickly became aware that musicals are not the way into a woman's hind... heart; the prince then decides to join the last unicorn's entourage. Of course, this was after she tricked Jack Skellington Sparrow into revealing the location of the secret underground lair of the Marque de Sade's other child, the infamous Jersey Devil.

((You'll notice there's a lot of overlapping story lines within this tale of cow dung flung.))

Like Unico, the Lady Amalthea, fueled by the power of love transforms into the ultimate weapon of holy retribution and frees the other unicorns who could have escaped the entire time, on different shores no less, if only one of them knew how to fillet red bulls to give them wings.

Fortunately, Amalthea was the only unicorn just crazy enough to go tripping balls. After the Jersey Devil is defeated her unicorn turned undead hippocampus friends come back to life. Because, that's how reality works for crazy revenge driven schizophrenics. They get everything they ever wanted as soon as the one bastard that causes all their problems is destroyed.

We can see this sort of thing once again in the tale of 'The unicorn in the garden. One morning a man wakes to find a unicorn in his garden and tells his wife, she doesn't believe him. He feeds the unicorn, has breakfast, and invites the beast in for tea.

While the husband is doing this, the wife calls the local constabulary (or mental institution) to inform them of her husbands madness. And, she insists they send someone over immediately. The man, her husband, has a delightful conversation with the unicorn before returning to bed.

His wife, who was all hot to trot, then discovers the unicorn while her husband is busy sawing a log. Just then, the sadistic officials arrive looking for a looney bird.

The wife, excited by her discovery of a moon goblin, excitedly tells them there's a REAL unicorn in the garden at the back of the house. The husband wakes to discover the commotion, and is shocked to learn his wife has become delusional.

Clearly, unicorns provide schizophrenic validation for reasons I can't fully explain right now, as evidenced by Twilight Sparkle from 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. This marvelous remake of 'Tico and the Golden Wings teaches children it's okay to have a handicap as long as you share your good fortune with others. Otherwise, they will abandon you. Because, as we all know, it's wrong to be too different from the rest of the flock.

This discussion makes perfect sense when you realize that Twilight Sparkle and Spike are the same person. Since Twilight Sparkle is a total Mary Sue with the emotional control of a repressed co dependent self centered delinquent with dissociative identity disorder, It stands to reason that Spike is the embodiment of her hostility and unconscious desires. Spike, for all intents and purposes, is Twilight Sparkle's true inner self. The ramifications of this odd nugget of a bad idea can be explained with science.

However, that isn't the point of this discussion. This discussion was made to illustrate a point, a point no one should have to cross unless they really care about the mad professor's workshop of formulaic ideas. A point so sharp and pointy that it cannot be written or spoken about without any rhyme or reason only thought.

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October 2nd, 2013, 9:23 pm

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@Lugbzurg: Pretty sure those two series are completely unrelated...

@GabrielsThoughts:

...That somehow made sense and yet didn't make sense at the same time. Bravo. You have utterly baffled me.

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October 2nd, 2013, 10:42 pm

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@Jarkes:

You have not been baffled until you have watched Unico or Madoka Magica back to back.

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October 3rd, 2013, 12:58 am

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@Jarkes: Tokyo Mew Mew is a normal magical girl animé, whereas Madoka Magica is a brutal deconstruction of the genre, much like Spec Ops: The Line was for modern military shooters like Call of Duty and Battlefield. I don't see why you would question the connection. They have A LOT in common.

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October 3rd, 2013, 7:30 pm

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Wow, Unico is like the assassin from Memento and he's got the memory of the hentai prince from Henneko. I'd like to see the stories they aren't telling us about the little eco terrorist. I can only imagine how much havoc the little troll would cause if he was manipulated, you have your memories for a reason, not a season.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/henneko-the-hentai-prince-and-the-stony-cat-/

Start with chapter 10 and move forward...

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October 3rd, 2013, 7:57 pm

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Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be slightly more loading in the PSN release of Sonic Adventure. There have been a couple moments where the screen is black for a couple seconds before a boss battle starts, and I've frequently experienced one-second pauses before something happens on screen (and it can be just about anything that triggers this). Of course, it's not NEARLY as bad as Sonic '06 was in the loading department, but I don't recall this ever happening in the Gamecube release (which the PSN version is basically a port of).

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October 3rd, 2013, 9:58 pm

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I like legos, I find them therapeutic. And, yet, I haven't watched their Ninjago or Chima miniseries. They have a new lego movie coming out featuring a paramedic as the main character that I really look forward to seeing.

I'm also willing to bet I have enough lego software to make a machinima movie if I really wanted to.

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October 4th, 2013, 10:47 am

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@Lugbzurg: Ah, so basically you're watching something that plays it utterly straight first so that you can understand what Madoka Magica is deconstructing. That makes sense.

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October 4th, 2013, 11:05 am

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@Jarkes: Yes, that's it. Though, even still, Tokyo Mew Mew has been quite enjoyable for me. It's actually slightly psychological. The "bad guys" aren't really evil.

Yet Ichigo is always winning her fights with her "Ribbon Strawberry Check" attack. At least until she upgrades it to "Ribbon Strawberry Surprise". I doubt the same tactic should work so many times like this. Madoka Magica is probably going to address that.

Oh, and I just bought Spec Ops: The Line last night. Been itchin' to have that for a while. It's 50% off.

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October 5th, 2013, 10:24 am

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Huh, that's weird... Normally, the latest page has been posted by now...

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