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December 6th, 2014, 2:37 am

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Just... show some kindness in this bleak, bleak world.

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I'm not very good at writing "Character tries to inspire another character" scene, so take it easy if this seems convoluted or cheesy. I know... I've got a lot of work to do.

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December 6th, 2014, 4:39 pm

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Take heart young whipper snapper, you probably intended this to sound like the big reveal in a detective novel. But, it all went so terribly wrong. Fortunately, you can always improve if given time and access to the right resources.

You clearly have talent, but so does everyone else. What you need is an inspirational song to guide you on your perilous adventure. After you've served your sentence for leading a rebel army against the sacred prostitute and her sadistic sister there's a whole world of judgmental and moralistic people who would love your ass if you weren't already a convicted felon, because hostage taking and assault is clearly wrong...

So keep on trying because if being yourself, taking the moral high ground, or being a genuinely good person wasn't enough for people to love you before, then you need to find a reason for people to love you otherwise your toast.

Well, I hope the trial goes well and you aren't brainwashed into oblivion before I see you again. Goodbye Miz Lifeblood, I have to go deal with your evil half brother and his psychotic girlfriend now.

*cue Elements of Peace...

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December 8th, 2014, 5:50 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Too bad Elements of Peace was cancelled long ago and whatever that plotline was will never be resolved due to Lugbzurg's own disappointment in that and even in this. Ultimate_Yoshi's review probably didn't help, but when Ulti posted that, Lugbzurg admitted over there that he completely agreed with most of the complaints in the review.

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December 10th, 2014, 12:04 am

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@Jarkes:
Comments are outside of canonical B.S.

As such,Parallel universes can be lamp shaded. Plus, the white/platinum hair makes LugZ's self insert avatar Jesus look like a respectable Colonel or southern gentleman who is long in the tooth. Hence the whipper snapper comment.

I already knew Elements of Peace ended. And, I've already teased Fiora about it since she seemed to be more of the driving force behind the series than LugZ.

I don't like Ulti because I was banned for asking for a more detailed review because the one he gave wasn't clear enough for me. I wanted to know what he liked as much as what he didn't and suggested it would be a show of strength if he could assist me in improving if he ever ran out of reviewing material.

My comics cant _ALL_ be bad, or more specifically, be entirely bad. there have to be elements in there that people like. I can't be expected to improve if only know what people don't like and if most of what they don't like is expressed by calling me an idiot or saying something is stupid without explaining why they think I can't improve. I won't exactly learn from a mistake if I don't know why it was a mistake or a faux pas in the first place.

I tried to keep it as original as possible, but I do have alot of little touches and homages to flash cartoons and other webcomics, but I thought that was standard protocol for artists. Plus, I don't believe the references were that obscure.

The other problem is no one seems willing to read far enough to see what improvements I did make over time, hence the reason for the occasional shuffling.

I couldn't agree with a complaint unless the message was clear and clearly understood so, I'm always looking for mutual understanding. However, I do have an objection to people using their intention to aggressively create psychological harm or otherwise vandalize my property. For instance, one reviewer came to my web page personally to tell me they had reviewed my comic, which I requested in good faith, but her sadism got the better of her and she was not satisfied with insulting me on the review page alone. I perma-banned her from my webpage and then left a nasty critique of her personal character on the review site and was banned there as well. However, she did later amend her review since I have no control of the organization of smackjeeves archive page beyond the norm.

I was also disappointed she claimed to read 100 pages when she clearly read less than 50. I know for a fact she never got to the color section of the archive which consisted of more than 60-70% of the comic at that point. I know I'm willing to read 200 pages of a bad comic, before I concede there is something wrong with the artist, but I wouldn't insult their intelligence or discredit their skill or ability based on what I knew of them five years ago. Heck, I've read the bad art collection of Johnen Vasquez, my early efforts aren't nearly as violent, sick, or difficult to follow.

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December 10th, 2014, 4:57 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Yeah, I remember you complaining about that before.

...Come to think of it... are we the only two people from the earlier days of this comic still actually reading this thing? Or are we just the only two still commenting? Even Greenpowerstar and Kurona seem to have left...

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December 11th, 2014, 8:19 am

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@Jarkes:
within the last six months or so...
L2S/PDA showed up while I was without internet access earlier this year and .:AuraX:. under the guise of a couple of different aliases trolled a few times, but other than that, I haven't seen GPS for a while.

I miss PDA becasue her visits came accompanied by fun updates to look at of some sort or another.

I think Ulti still watches from the shadows.

It's possible we are the only ones to still comment on a regular basis. LugZ does appear to have lost three or four watchers since last I checked.

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December 11th, 2014, 11:06 am

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@GabrielsThoughts: Okay, let's set this straight.

I did not ban you for asking for that more detailed review. I got aggravated by you for your inability to accept the fact that I said no, but that didn't cause your ban either. You got banned from Ulti Reviews for dragging others into your whiny complaining, and just all around acting immature. Specifically, the comment that caused it was on the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon RAD review, where you unnecessarily replied to PhantomCat saying, in essence, "What about MY problems?" on something totally irrelevant and made you sound desperate for attention. It was immature and not behavior that I will tolerate.

If you want to know what I liked about Transient Pulse, it had some alright art, an undeniable creativity, and potentially interesting concepts behind it. All of that is moot due to how poor Transient Pulse was executed, though.

You want to know why, in more detail, I refused to go more in-depth in analyzing your comic? It's because I can't. I literally just cannot. I can't separate it, story-by-story, because they may as well all be the same. Characters, setting, detail, plot, exposition, jokes, absolutely everything was never introduced properly. Nothing was conveyed well to the reader audience. YOU may know exactly what you were intending and what story you wanted to tell, but you didn't give that story in your comic pages.

There was a severe lack of transitions between pages, nothing really made much sense, it was difficult to tell what was going on, characters felt meaningless and didn't have any sort of clear personality or depth to them. Names and locations were scarce, there didn't appear to be much logic or reason, the entire comic just felt like a conglomerated mess of interesting character design and bad writing in every single aspect.

Don't take this as any sort of insult towards you, but this is just kind of a problem I've noticed that you've had. You have a great plan in mind, you know what you want to say, and you write out all these large paragraphs, in both comics and in comments. But when people read them, oftentimes they get confused, and can't tell what the relevance or the point was to your comment. It's happened to me and I've seen others question you as well. At some point, you do have to ask yourself, "maybe it's not them that is the problem, but instead it's me?" Again, I'm not trying to insult you. We may mutually dislike each other, but I do want to try and help you. Or at the very least, try and explain better why I feel the way I do.


And also for the record, I don't read this comic, and I only saw your rant up above because I happened across Jarkes' user page and noticed he replied to you, and curiosity brought me here.

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December 11th, 2014, 3:57 pm

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@Ultimate Yoshi:
As far as I know acting immature isn't a crime, and since I don't lack discipline, at least the kind represented by a commitment to personal responsibility, mutual understanding, delayed gratification, and a desire to seek out an objective truth closer to justice than propaganda, revenge, or the just world hypothesis and hubris you'll have a hard time convincing me otherwise. I'm not wanting for harsh inconsistent discipline measured out by a child that thinks maturity is the ability to control people, and the environment because they feel a lack control over themselves. I share my soul openly, and can tolerate ambiguity.

As far as I know, I haven't asked anyone to support me as your enemy or rival. You were free to make that assessment on your own, and it seems you didn't accurately read the situation any more than I did at the time. If genuine curiosity, or an interest in your opinion isn't a good motivation for you to stop being a dick, and contribute to something larger than your self interest then why are you offering it?

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December 11th, 2014, 4:15 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: I never said you broke any laws. You had the wrong idea as to why you got banned, and I told you specifically what behavior caused it. Sure, it may not be illegal or anything, but it definitely doesn't get tolerated in more mature places, which is the kind of place I want my review site to be. If you're so content to act like a child towards people, I can't change your mind but I can definitely stop you from doing it in my comments. If you think that just because it's not a crime makes it perfectly okay to act that way, though, then you are sorely mistaken.

I don't get why you're so on the defensive here about a topic that didn't even come up. I never once SAID you were trying to be an enemy of mine and that you were trying to get people on your side. I said, and I quote, "we may mutually dislike each other", and that was in reference to what you said earlier, and again I quote: "I don't like Ulti..." And now, you're calling me a selfish jerk because I provided a more in-depth explanation of my opinion that you definitely came across as wanting to know, and clarified other topics that you specifically brought up. Y'know what, I'm not even gonna bother with this anymore. You're overly hostile towards me and despite my effort to amend the situation in a calm and collected manner, it seems to have gotten worse. But this isn't really the place for this kind of conversation anyway. If you want to reply to this, send it in a Private Message rather than continuing to have an irrelevant conversation on Lugbzurg's comic.

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December 11th, 2014, 8:50 pm

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@Ultimate Yoshi: Sorry for this; I'm the one who brought up your review comic in the first place.

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December 13th, 2014, 2:18 am

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@Jarkes:
No need to apologize. He doesn't out rank you here, and my dislike for him isn't your responsibility unless you called him over.

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December 13th, 2014, 2:07 am

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@Ultimate Yoshi:
I'm sorry for not responding earlier. Today was my day of rest and I slept through most of the day undisturbed. It was quite enjoyable, you should try it some time.

First of alI, I never suggested I broke any laws either. Being immature isn't a crime any more than a homophone error is. However, you seem to think I know the same implicit rules you do. Which is clearly not the case otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Now, one of the first principles they teach you in business, psychology, philosophy, economics, and ethics is the concept of egoism. You clearly have no tolerance for it, and if you are intolerant, I'm afraid I cannot show admiration for your ability to use it much less admire your conduct when presented with something you dislike. While I wouldn't say your first response was avoidance, your first response to a potential conflict is avoidance when you can control the environment.

You also cannot convince me you were tuned to Jarkes, like Eric Cartman is tuned into Alec Baldwin and that was what piqued your curiosity to show up here. Feel free to present your version of events as you like, but as I recall he never mentioned you by name. I did, and it provoked a response.

Clearly, there is something more that you find attractive about the conversation besides my declaration of dislike. As far as disrespect none was intended, I just don't like you, or your bigoted opinions. My philosophy and yours are different and honestly you could do worse than to give a blow by blow account of what you don't like about my comic in your free time.

I don't know how to convince you, but I'm still interested in a relationship with you based on trust, respect, honesty, and communication.

If by immaturity you mean "Lude" behavior, then I'm afraid there is little I can do about that. I have five years training in visual media, and part of that is the use and training of seductive reasoning, directing attention, and game design. Not only that, my father was a ferengi like sadist who was built like a rancor, and believed in harsh, inconsistent, discipline. You aren't going to teach me a lesson by shutting me down, or cock blocking, I'm afraid negotiation is the only choice.

However, I would like to understand what you consider immature behavior if only to have an explicit point of reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5a7dunZkrI

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December 14th, 2014, 7:48 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Maybe you haven't seen me because you don't know where to look

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December 14th, 2014, 11:30 pm

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@greenpowerstar:

That's true, I haven't seen gravity falls either, but the avatars seem to keep popping up. I apologize, as I may have mistook you for someone else and I was only talking about the regulars that I was aware of. I hope you'll forgive me.

You probably already know this, but It would be a real help if you could help me identify which implicit rules of maturity I'm violating.

Keep in mind I know the difference between, and try to draw a line between, persistence and coercing someone through the use of fear, obligation, and guilt. Unless I was tread upon first, and the goal of the other person was to set boundaries while damaging another's self concept, undermine their self confidence, and destroy their self esteem. If persistence and persuasion is a sign of immaturity, or if an egalitarian idea of treating all people the same (regardless of age or social status) is something you consider immature behavior I'm afraid I can't do much to improve.

And, if the bible is to be believed, the greedy are with you always. So that is neither here nor there. Especially since everyone is motivated by self interest.

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December 15th, 2014, 1:52 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: what are you even talking about

all I did was make a joke about how you thought I had left when really I just didn't feel like commenting this whole time

how on earth is that calling you immature

I find it more immature that you're fussing about immaturity to a guy who doesn't know or care about your little issues with ultimate yosh or whatever

do us a favor and get over it

or at the very least take it out of the comments of a completely unrelated comic and leave me and Jarkes out of it

that's what PMs are for dude

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December 15th, 2014, 4:30 pm

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@greenpowerstar:
I'm not really fussing over it. I am making it an issue of it because it is well within my rights and capability to do so. Plus, I'm not dragging you into anything. It wasn't a test or anything, I was asking what implicit rules of maturity I was violating that could be setting off or triggering Ultimate Yoshi. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.

As far as Jarkes is concerned, I was pointing out it wasn't his responsibility to placate Yoshi's ego as he did nothing to attract Yoshi here save mention his name and if that were the case, I hesitate to use the word self obsessed stalker, it wasn't his fault any more than mine.

I stated my dislike and why I held the belief to justify it and brought up another incident with a different reviewer to keep the conversation going.

Since it was initially related to something Jarkes mentioned of LugZ and Ulti as well as a review, I discussed my relationship to Ulti, why I couldn't accept his review without further clarification and he seemed to chicken out when I asked him to review individual issues in more detail if he had free time.

This of course lead to my being banned, I wouldn't know if it was related to anything else since I don't know what implicit rules I violated by talking to other readers or commenting on his updates. There was no discussion it just happened. I triggered this response in Fiora as well, but since I'm not aware of what I did wrong it will continue to happen.

Since this is no longer the current page, and the discussion that lead into this situation was who appears to be still commenting regularly on Serendipity. As that mystery has been resolved the subject changed with Yoshi's appearance in order to complain about my dislike for him.

While I was actually trying to pump and suess out extra information from you for no other reason than to keep the conversation going. I was also setting limits because I don't want to make it easy for Yoshi to re enter the conversation without something of value to contribute. Essentially doing the same thing he intended for me, but more obvious and provocative.

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December 16th, 2014, 1:52 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Listen, I don't care. All I know is that you dragged an almost entirely irrelevant argument onto this comic's comments section. Yes, it is also partially Ultimate's fault as well, but while he may have stopped, as he hasn't replied to you yet, you just continued whining about an argument that only YOU TWO cared about. Matters of policy may be public and explicit, but WHY IS IT ON A WEBCOMIC ABOUT TECHNICOLOR PONIES? THAT NEITHER OF YOU OWN, NO LESS? Either move to PMs or Ulti's review comic, or shut it.

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December 17th, 2014, 5:50 am

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@greenpowerstar:

First of all, I'm not threatening anyone. I'm not violating any explicit rules that I'm aware of. Secondly, open forum is open. I feel anything can and should be discussed in any location.

Pretend Serendipity is Starbucks. If a subject changes from one about a location, to the people that frequent it because they like an author or feel the shop is empty. And, this leads to a discussion about the owner's critic, his reaction to that critic, and then to a personal experience with that critic, before the critic reveals he's been sitting in the next table over the whole time. Doubtlessly hiding his face under a book so he could soak in the atmosphere he helped create. Motivated to speak only because his ears were burning. Remaining silent only until you said something he objected too, before complaining about your attempts at commiseration, bonding, or your dislike of his opinions. Then leaving in a huff, but still observing through two way glass while using a bug planted in someones ear.

Then, some other regular showed up and was offended because you forgot to invite them. Probably because you hadn't seen them in a while. Maybe because they decided they'd dress up like Slenderman or Justin Beiber or something, and as a result had negative presence. Because they didn't travel in the same circles as the Mystery Men, Teen Titans, or Power Puff Girls you didn't know the same politics or place the same priority on assorted current events.

You try to apologize, and include them in the present topic, but they aren't all that interested, and what little they do understand of the subject is mixed up with hostile indignation, contempt, impatience, and defensive posturing. Doubtlessly because the table being used in the cafe has a lovely view of some horse's ass, because the other person is looking for something that's gone missing, and you can't be bothered to help. As such it is an affront to the security and peace you came in from the cold to avoid.

Perhaps I wasn't explicit enough, since any good creator takes everything from horses teeth to steel wire in order to invent. You could see this as a process of helping LugZ, myself, and other creative types come up with fun, if not better ideas for future updates by contributing to the great zeitgeist, or be wait to be counted.

Personally, if you play it right we could be talking about any topic you want instead of discussing what I'm looking for.

What is your explicit standard for maturity? Saying "Just shut up and get out of my way," or "step aside, I take big steps" isn't going to end this conversation anymore than telling me to make it a private matter. Not to mention, If you step on my glasses, I can't be expected to see your side of the table or hold your opinions in much esteem.

For me, it's a matter for public discussion and all opinions are welcome.

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December 17th, 2014, 6:48 pm

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@GabrielsThoughts: Okay, firstly, your Starbucks comparison is highly unrealistic. I find Ulti's analogy to be much better formed; his has a point, meanwhile, yours is just restating a scenario we already knew about from a whiny perspective in the form of an analogy that has no logic.

Secondly, how on Earth is this helping Lug? He has no involvement except being the creator of the comic you're spamming arguments in the comments section of. I don't know if he even reads these anymore, as he seems more focused on his new YouTube channel than these old fancomics, but if he does, he's not going to learn anything from an argument irrelevant to him.

Thirdly, you dragged me into this. Although Ulti has made an extremely accurate analogy, I find it more like if two people started an argument or fight in a library. The others in that library may or may not care about the result of the fight, but there are many who just want to enjoy the book they are reading, but are interrupted by an argument that one stubborn half of the argument refused to take outside the neutral library. There's a difference between that and arguing in a place specifically tailored for open debate. There's a time and, more specifically, there is a place to do this kind of thing. And it's not here.

@Ultimate Yoshi: Don't worry, I'm not as angry at you. You may have started the argument (you could have explained your reasons somewhere else) but I'm not as upset with the argument itself, just that Gabe refuses to move this somewhere better suited. Not to mention, your mistake was accidental due to lack of thought at the time. He, however, is intentially just being stubborn and rude.

and people wonder why i don't bother commenting here anymore

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December 18th, 2014, 10:00 pm

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@greenpowerstar:
First of all the internet is publicly used commercial property not unlike a coffee house, recreation center, or community park. You can turn every web page you haunt into a private clubhouse by insisting the people you don't like wear duct tape over their mouths, but without window treatments you are still using a glass house akin to a fishbowl. And, you know what they say about throwing stones.

As for logic, my interpretation of the internet, it is clearly more realistic than yours albiet infuriating from your point of view. I'm not harming anyone, physically, emotionally, or mentally. Surely you've heard of the four freedoms recently. Freedom from fear, freedom from want, freedom of speech, and freedom of worship. That does not include freedom from complaint, whimpers, whining, and moans.

Clearly, you have no ego strength or tolerance. If you cannot withstand or have a problem with others seeking to fulfill their needs at no expense to you, that's your problem. If you want to complain about it, you can, there is nothing stopping you. However, you could also use that effort to find an __enforceable__ solution that doesn't create or contribute a hostile environment or make it worse. By disagreeing with your assessment, I'm not slapping you in the face. And, I didn't exactly go into your home and knock the hot dogs out of your mouth.

Secondly, invention, creation, development, and progress requires more than criticism. In fact, it would occur regardless of criticism.

Do you know why?

Because, all criticism offers is a point of focus, like windows into or out of a house that embodies the mind of another.

I'm sorry you're too ignorant to make a connection between, or draw inspiration from, daily events and challenges in your life. I understand the universe demands growth, if not constant or consistent change, and I can see how life must be very difficult for you.

You do realize you have a built in spam filter known as ignorance. Clearly you're using it wrong if your only goal is to only eliminate and trash something you don't like.

In my case I'm looking for something, I don't know what you're looking for. If it's an apology you're looking for, I'm afraid I cannot offer you one at present. Because, I don't see how disagreeing with you and your perception is a moral wrong.

Thirdly, when I asked you a question, you answered it like a robot from a Michael Bay film. I didn't drag you into anything, you chose to do that on your own. I only asked you for an opinion of standards and practices within certain confines, that's not the same as restraint.

Second of all, even if the internet is a global library, you can still pass words, cliff notes, books, and other forms of silent or WRITEN communication around in a library.

Text is silent you JACKASS. As are gestures, charades, signs, and sign language.

What you have in mind is more like a fascist state where all communication is monitored by the department of inquisition and/or the ministry of truth, in search of insurrection, heretics, and rebel leaders that disagree with the state so you can publicly destroy them.

You're not really neutral, you just support the biggest dictator.

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December 19th, 2014, 2:04 am

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@GabrielsThoughts: Screw it. All I came here to do in the first place was make a small joke. At this point, it's like talking to an ignorant, hypocritical, stubborn wall. I am so tempted to correct your points, but they're either irrelevant (that library analogy really went over your head, didn't it?) or not worth wasting my time with because I know from experience you think you've got to have the last word, no matter how pretentious and incorrect. I won't be coerced into arguments again like I was before. I learn from my mistakes, unlike you. I would bet 100, heck, even a million, dollars that you're STILL going to reply to this comment and I'd double that bet that'd you'd reply with a TL;DR equivalent of either "I must be too intelligent for you imbeciles" or "You're still wrong even though you essentially gave up anyway."

Screw this. Ultimate and Lug, he's you're problem now. Deal with him how you wish. I'll read this comic on my phone, without comments.

Although, I will point out that that calling someone a "jackass" is pretty immature no matter what perspective you look at, especially in a debate or argument. You could've pit a bit of wit into your insults. Oh, wait, YOU can't. Sorry for being so insensitive.

Adios, todos.

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December 20th, 2014, 10:22 am

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@greenpowerstar:
That's the point of a genuine conversation young Lear. First it likes to swing this way, then it likes to sway that way. Where the wind blows nobody knows. An ignorant, hypocritical, wall I may be. But, you do realize the subject of conversation switched from implicit rules of maturity to what I'm doing wrong. Clearly, It isn't as if I provided you with any information as to what wouldn't work as an argument, so you could develop a better strategy than "you're a very naughty boy, that's what you are."

The library analogy didn't go over my head at all. It would appear you just can't fully appreciate the full the luxury and privilege of the resources you actually have available to you. And, you're going to loose them if you don't slow down for a moment and think this through.

People pass notes in class, but they are succinct and it's culturally frowned upon. If people want to exchange text with each other over their cell phones, where there was once a monthly data limit and, while I'm not sure about now, it used to cost money by the letter. It's such a waste and a real shame you threw away all that money over a gamble that I would respond to you, the odds are literally 1/1 if you care to ask and use my name. There was really nothing to be gained.

If you actually have a million dollars that's great, but you know as well as I do that if you offered me the million dollars to leave you alone, I would do what I could to stay out of your life, much less interfere with your life, with the resources you provided me with. The funny thing is, if all you can offer is horse pucky you get flies. Now, at the moment I've got a feeling there's a pony in here somewhere. Just let me finish looking for it and I'll get out of your way. If you aren't helping there's no reason you should look like a filthy animal.

Also, I wouldn't call a person an imbecile, idiot, or moron, or stupid. Mostly because I know what it means to be the child [of a sadist] and the difficulty that it entails to be a victim of sadism, violence, abuse, and cruelty. If I can create something much better for others than to push them into a role I've created for them, when I'm not even the director of my own life, I doubt telling them how they fail at meeting my selfish needs or forcing them to accept my reality will improve or build a relationship beyond one of hate.

I'm not offering you a choice, I'm presenting you with options and telling you that you have the right to choose. It's not my fault if you chose to ignore my perspective or take responsibility for your actions. I'm not taking responsibility for your actions or your poor attitude either. Not because I can do no wrong, but because I chose to make the world a better place than the one I came into. If you won't stand with me then either lead somebody else to their damnation, follow behind me, or get out of the way and withdraw.

How's that for smug superiority Hoss?

I'm willing to bet it ties into the whole convoluted and cheesy "Character tires of inspired characters genre." And, I'm smart enough to know better than to give people earnest money to hold onto for me without expecting something, if not anything, more in return.

Clearly you've misjudged me if you think "I'm too smart for you imbeciles," to quote your earlier sentiment. And, yet, you continue typing because you want me to accept your perspective as more important to me, and others within your life, than your own. That's a striking number of coincidence there young Lear.

What kind of ritardando song and dance do you think you're running here? Still, to satisfy your need to feel important. Yes, indeedy, last I checked this wasn't a __dog__ and pony show, a library, or a dumb Starbucks. Even If you believed that like a Bieber you'd still be wrong, based entirely on the differences between a single webpage, on a website with more than a hundred pages open to general discussion, and subject to change based on the direction of a few good men, who have nothing in common.

Yes, even though you claim you've already given up, as if the grace of God has shined upon you and your arrogance, while giving you the strength to carry on for two more paragraphs. You still can't win this argument by loosing. It's too late for that at this point...

Using your own logic, It wasn't even a real fight where anyone could be knocked down a peg or two.

Screw you too Precious, we've all got problems of our own. People don't need you, or your advise to deal with their problems, even if you were asked. You seem like a smart person, I'm sure you understand the concept of ownership, so it isn't your responsibility to come up with a solution, but rather offer (if not provide) an insightful opinion.

However, If you can't see past the bridge of your nose, as evidenced by the fact you ignore and react blindly to the similarity between, and the use of, your own selective metaphors within a counter argument. I'm not going to lie or apologize for saying that I don't see what you're offering as particularly insightful either.

Although, to be fair, I suppose dehumanizing someone by referring to them as being the weaker half of a stubborn mule, is completely not the same thing as permanently infantilizing someone and crippling them repeatedly by reporting someone has the permanent intelligence of a child and that they are good for nothing more than contempt, ridicule, and humiliation. Thank you for showing me the light, oh king of crap, I may not have found the pony yet, but I have no problem setting you on your throne of flies. And, here lies the difference between our analogies. Mine offer redemption, yours do not.

Wow, I guess I'm not above shoving you into a steaming pile of your own excrement as I thought I was. What a bad doggie. It's my fault really, If I'd have known I was responsible for your lazy ass, I wouldn't have piled it all up in one corner like this to shove your nose in it. For shame. What on earth will animal control and PETA have do with me now? My efforts to look for the pony in the room have lead to this stinky outcome.

Maybe, if I act like a child, they will treat me like one.

*TIME FOR GROUP HUG!!!* I'm so sorry, I can see now how mistreated and exploited you were. Oh, how terribly you must have suffered when I forced you to think of someone other than yourself. I can no longer look into your cold, dead, fish like eyes. Because, when I do, all I can now see is your suffering and your desire to lick all the poo off your hairy butt.

There is only one way for me to rectify this!

*Throws glitter and rose petals at GPS*

Run! Run away! You are now free, free to visit any webpage or website on the internet, and walk in any direction you choose. Goodbye neighbor, and good luck overcoming your gambling addiction and building up your financial portfolio for the good of all mankind.

I hope in time you'll come to forgive me as God forgives all his children. It's just too bad our relationship isn't any better off than when we had our first encounter. Later Sprout.

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December 17th, 2014, 4:57 pm

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@greenpowerstar: Hey, I at least tried to get the conversation out of here and to a more relevant place, but Gabriel doesn't seem to want to accept the fact that there are times and places for certain conversations and this is far from the proper location.

@GabrielsThoughts: Like I said earlier, I'm not going to continue this conversation here. Serendipity is not a relevant location for our disagreements, so if you want to continue, send me a private message. This is like the equivalent of talking about issues you have with Burger King in an Apple store loud enough for everybody in the nearby vicinity to hear even though you're only really talking to one person. Sure, it's technically allowed, but it's far from relevant to the location and might not be something people want to hear when shopping at Apple or working there.

So, as before, if you want to continue this, DO NOT reply to me here. I will not respond if you do. The conversation has no need to be here, and if you can't accept that very small thing, then this discussion might as well be done and over with.

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December 18th, 2014, 10:07 pm

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@Ultimate Yoshi:

Text is silent. IF this discussion were taking place at a library, it would be like typing up a complaint about Burger King using the library's "free" internet over an Open Forum.

I'm not going to PM you. Just because you would rather that I show up at your house and bust your windows instead of busting your chops within the safety of your private playhouse. Which, clearly has no window treatments, see through walls, and no doors.

If you think that making others walk around you on eggshells or wearing duct tape over their mouth keeps them silent or stupid, then you have other problems and social issues that I cannot help you resolve. Good luck with that, I'm sure even the blind can see the flaw in your great security highness.

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December 19th, 2014, 5:20 am

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@GabrielsThoughts: If you're going to act so childish and stubborn, I might as well too.
You're insane. I'm done here. I'd say it was nice trying to have this conversation with you but I think we all know that would be a lie.

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December 20th, 2014, 1:10 pm

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@Ultimate Yoshi:
Sticks and stones can break your bones, but your words will never touch me.

Being insane and being incompetent are two very different things. You've already demonstrated you lack the necessary skill to communicate with me effectively, and that weakness shows a lack of maturity much more debilitating than mine. What evidence can you furnish that I don't know the difference between right and wrong or that I'm a danger to you and others?

It has to be something more than holding unfavorable ideas and disagreeing with the opinions of others.

Persistence and bulldog determination is not a sign of coercion, corruption, obsession, or stalking behavior. And, even those are primarily related to neurotic behaviors not borderline or psychotic behavior. So, I guess you sometimes fail at assessment and insight too. Good to know.

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December 20th, 2014, 10:50 am

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@Ultimate Yoshi:

I cannot take it to a more relevent location, you either banned me for talking to your readers and offering my opinion of the reviews, or you felt I was being disrespectful for not agreeing with you and asking for another more in depth review of individual storylines when you had the free time.

In all honesty, it's not my fault you passed up on reviewing something other than sprite or fan-comics, with the potential to become your own private "Miller Time." And, you think the private message system means you are less likely to look like a boob. Because it's clear you aren't honestly doing me any favors.

This is an open discussion, I chose the topic and I'm not ashamed of it or how it progressed. If you cared to note It started as a discussion of your review of LugZ's comic and how he accepted your review. Then, it became a discussion of my review and how I couldn't accept your assessment without more details, because I want to improve my craft not wallow in self pity.

I want to know why something I've done is wrong and how it can be fixed. I said I didn't like you because I was banned for telling you that your suggestions were not clear enough for me to understand. As such I couldn't accept them and brought up another reviewer for comparison.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear in saying or implying you were better than they were.

However, unless the thread is spoiled. Anyone reading the threads knows the truth is this, it started out as a conversation, or discussion, about who still shows up here to comment on LugZ's comic.

I reported on who I knew frequented the comic of technicolor ponies over the last eight months. I missed one. I'm sorry, Ulti, but you cannot convince me that Jarkes summoned you like a Pokemon when the only person who said anything about you that would draw interest like a bad penny was me.

You Lurk this comic and you know it. There is no point in denying it. Especially, since you would show up even if your name or input wasn't warranted.

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December 15th, 2014, 7:47 pm

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@greenpowerstar:
Also, matters of policy should be public and explicit.

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December 18th, 2014, 1:50 pm

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Guys... my internet is going berserk. I can't guarantee that there will be a new page this weekend... or next week, for that matter.

Winstream has displayed quite possibly the WORST customer service I have ever seen in my entire life. They promised that someone would come to the house on a specific day to fix it... TWICE. Never showed up. Now they're saying they won't be able to do anything until after Christmas, because they're "booked"... even though I've been waiting for about two or three WEEKS after they promised they'd fix it and flat-out FAILED to do ANYTHING. This is lazy, incompetent, and stupid. There's been so much going on, and with this, it's been practically killed. I can't guarantee any new pages for a while. I'll try if I can... but if not, you can blame Winstream for that.

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December 18th, 2014, 9:13 pm

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@Lugbzurg:
I understand the concept of poor, neglectful, or slow customer service. However, I cannot grasp your meaning of berserk... I do understand you, yourself, may be unavailable for a few weeks until the matter is resolved unless you keep in touch through another's connectivity. And, that during the time until your matter is resolved your updates will be non existent.

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December 21st, 2014, 8:06 pm

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Hahaha what the fuck is this shit

Did I honestly miss this. Wow. I applaud the troll who was good enough to pull this off. Le legit master troll.

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